Different Deities ~ II
The Crescent and the Cross… the unitarian Islamic deity (Allah) and our trinitarian Christian deity (Yahweh). In my previous entry I mentioned that there are profound theological differences, and differences historically and in outworking, between the Islamic Allah and the God whom Christians worship. Yet Christianity and Islam are both called Abrahamic faiths. So what is it that they have in common if there is supposedly common ground that they share?
As the late Dr Francis Schaeffer pointed out (and other notable theologians too, of course) our knowledge of God is incomplete, but what we do know of Him can be true. We know Him truly, but not exhaustibly. We can know Him only inasmuch as He has chosen to reveal Himself to us. Christians believe His fullest revelation is in His Son, our lord Jesus Christ. However, all mankind has a certain knowledge of Him - internal knowledge (an instinctive awareness of divinity that we are born with, and a conscience) and external knowledge (evidence from His creation, and from history) - and this knowledge is of the only one God, the One who IS. This applies to all mankind, which includes Muslims.
So it would appear that Muslims, along with all others who acknowledge a Creator God and make claims to worship this God, do inasmuch as they have knowledge of Him. I have listened to a number of Muslims speak of God in certain ways that I know to be true of His character. We appear to be referring to the same God as we each know Him, and where there is agreement, there is a degree of commonality.
However, the Muslim knowledge of God is seriously altered from the Christian knowledge of Him by the information that Muhammad provided for them. Their knowledge of God took a turning and headed off down another path. Their knowledge, as provided by much of Muhammad’s elaborations in the Qu’ran, has taken them away from the Christian knowledge of God. In this departure they increasingly lose sight of the Christian triune God, and the one whom they worship (whom they call Allah) takes on more and more the appearance and essence of what is called in Biblical language, an idol.
But isn’t it just that we have different perceptions of the same Supreme Being? Well, here is an analogy for you to consider. Take the situation in which you and I believe that we might know someone in common. I describe this person according to my knowledge and experience of him, and you look somewhat surprised. Yes, many of those characteristic do fit, you say, but didn’t I know that he has a son as well? Nope, I didn’t know that. In fact I am quite sure that he doesn’t because he never married nor had any such relationship with anyone. Oh, and did I know that he also has written a book? Yes, I knew he had written a book and that it was about the warring tribes of the sixth century. You look at me strangely. No it wasn’t anything to do with warring tribes of the sixth century, but to do with his son and many other things as well. Then we begin to realize there are a great many other significant things that don’t quite stack up. You tell me that this person is very keen to befriend and help others, and I think that is most odd because I found him to be totally impersonal and very severe. We are both absolutely certain of our facts and so may start to wonder if we are actually talking about the same person… perhaps we had made a mistake about that, and it is two different people we are talking about. In fact, given two laws of logic, the Law of Non Contradiction and the Law of the Excluded Middle, the most logical and rational conclusion we can come to is that we are speaking of two entirely different persons.
There are so many major differences between the Islamic Allah and the Christian knowledge and experience of God, Yahweh.
~ Allah says he has no son, even in the figurative sense; Yahweh claims that He does.
~ Allah says that Jesus didn’t die, yet Jesus died;
~ Allah says that one of Noah’s sons died in the flood; Yahweh says that Noah’s three sons were saved in the flood;
~ Allah says that Jesus made clay birds that could fly when He was a child; this is not in the New Testament, but in later myth books;
~ Allah says that Jesus spoke as an infant; this is not in the New Testament, but in later myth books;
~ Allah does not seem to know what mainstream Christianity believed as far as the Trinity is concerned. The closest that the Qur’an comes to a Trinity is God, Jesus and Mary. Nowhere can you find the true concept of the Trinity in the Qur’an - Father, Son (Word) and Holy Spirit.
~ The Qur’an has no concept of the incarnation of the Word of God in Jesus’ human body; the Qur’an says in essence that Jesus could not have been God because He ate and slept. Well, Christians have always believed that Jesus was 100% human and needed sleep and food. Why didn’t Allah understand what Christians believed? Yahweh would have understood.
~ How do we reconcile the fact that Allah allowed Muhammad to have many, many wives when in the Old Testament, Yahweh said not to multiply wives?
~ How do we reconcile the fact that Allah allows divorce after Yahweh said He hates divorce, taking into consideration what Jesus said about divorce in the New Testament?
I could go on and on with this one.
However, many Muslims believe that they are worshipping God, that being the Only God, the Supreme Being, the Creator of all, whose name is Allah - and that it is the Christians who have the distorted view of Him. But would this be good enough for God? We could all probably make up a religion and make it similar to the teachings of the Bible and say that the revelations of this new religion came from God. Would that make it so? How similar to the Bible would I have to be in order to get some believers? How different in the teachings from the Bible would it take for me to be accused of being a fraud? It is very important to note that in the days of Muhammad the Jews accused him of being a fraud - and they knew their Scriptures.
It is noteworthy that Mohammed, when preaching to the Meccans, was not seen as introducing a new god to them, but merely proclaiming that one of their many gods, the one who was already called Allah, was the greatest and only god. The Meccans did not accuse Mohammed of preaching a different god from the one that they knew and so embraced “Allah” without difficulty. Muhammad was very cleverly backing for a win and a place. While reigning in the beliefs of his own pagan polytheistic Arab brothers who already worshipped the god called Allah (who incidentally had three daughters in pre-Islamic times), he was linking the name of Allah (Arabic for “God”, as we know) to the religious histories of Judaism and Christianity as a way to claim them also for Islam and seek the conversion of Jew and Christian as well. Thus he gave his Arab brothers their history by identifying them as the descendents of Ishmael whose father was Abraham, generating Islam as a religion based on corrupted, often Gnostic, versions of Scripture while claiming to have issued from Abraham. Interestingly, the Qur’an does not actually say that Ishmael was offered for sacrifice instead of Isaac, but this is taught to Muslims all the same. The Jews and Christians at the time saw through this deception and would have none of it, spurning Islam as false doctrine. Thus they mocked him, which angered him greatly. This appropriation is a cunning strategy of Islamic apologetics and one to which the naive and unsuspecting will fall victim in their thinking. For this reason there is a very real need not to allow any confusion of the Islamic unitarian Allah with the Christian trinitarian God.
My ultimate concern is that in agreeing that Muslims and Christians worship the same God (in the fullness of their respective and differing knowledge of God) and making allowances for Allah being just the Islamic view of the same God, we then subsequently deny our lord and saviour, Jesus Christ. Islam denies the deity of Jesus. There is no getting away from that single fact. On this point Allah and Yahweh irrevocably part company in terms of everything we know and subsequently experience of them. You may worship one or the other, but not both together as these two understandings of God are an eternity apart.
We all are blessed by His common grace, no matter what we believe, and show forth something of His image in which we are made. Muslims will also show good fruit, the outworking of His common grace which is there in all of us. They know Him in some measure, but not in the fullness of the revelation and relationship that we have of Him in Christ and through the grace of the Holy Spirit. I can see Muslims worshipping something of God, but in their deception (for Muhammad certainly deceived them with the teachings of the Qur’an) they have taken a false path, one that leads to a parody of God, that which is their Islamic Allah. I have talked with some very spiritual Muslimahs, ones who worship Allah as portrayed in the early Mecca surahs, and their knowledge is more like our God, Yahweh. But without Christ they have no experience of an intimate relationship, and their knowledge and worship is stifled as a result. Their worship is not of the One who can give them that relationship, who has revealed Himself in that fullness. They strenuously deny that as it would be utterly blasphemous and apostate to do otherwise. They cannot worship Christ, and yet Jesus said that He and the Father are one (John 10.30) The Apostle John had a very important warning for the followers of Christ. We must not ignore this Scripture.
Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work.
(2 John 1: 9-11)
Check out this paper for more theology: Does Islam really serve the same God as Christians?


The catchy pithy title of this post is the same as that of a book I am currently reading by Dr Douglas Groothuis, associate professor of philosophy at Denver Seminary. That I am doing so coincides rather remarkably with several recent events that have all served to remind me that we are living in an Age where “truth” is being allowed to have quite different meanings to different people.
MacGregor Ministries has had to relocate its corporate structure into the United States because it points out that:
Today is Good Friday. Why is it good? As a child I used to think it was good because we had hot cross buns for breakfast - lovely and spicey, warmed in the oven, butter melting and dripping down our chins. And it was a day off school. Perfect! But apart from that, I thought it was pretty bad that Jesus was crucified - that anyone could be crucified. How was that good? It should really be Bad Friday instead.
It needs to be said…


These people have had considerable experience of Islam and know all of its facets. They are concerned for the future of Western civilization, knowing the Islamic mission of bringing about universal submission to Allah. There is nothing “crazed” about their writing and teaching, but it seems that “whipping up hatred” is the term Mr Galloway and his associates prefer for the teaching of facts that we all need to know. As Christians, they are also committed to the teachings of Christ who would have us all love our neighbour as ourselves. There is no teaching that we must hate Muslims.


The parable of the Blind Men and the Elephant has appeared numerous times in both Western and Oriental thought, expressing the supposed fact that people tend to understand only a tiny portion of Reality and then extrapolate all manner of doctrine from that, each claiming only his one is the correct version.
Pope Benedict XVI has inherited the Catholic Church’s Catechism which holds him to the view that the God of Abraham is the deity in common to Jews, Christians and Muslims. All three monotheistic faiths claim the God of Abraham as their own, and the Roman Catholic Church acknowledges that to be the case. 
One of the authors I have referenced in my comments on Islam is Robert Spencer. He is committed to exposing the facts about Islam and the prophet of Islam. However, in doing so, he receives considerable flak from Muslims who resent what he writes and accuse him of disseminating lies based on hatred and fear. It is important for the reader to regard critically all such protests that set about trying to discount this kind of information. Many who protest are Muslims who want to present a nicer side to Islam. They themselves may truly and wholeheartedly believe their version of Islam to be the truth, but it is a version that is at variance with the facts highlighted by these authors noted here and on websites beyond this one. Some of these Muslims have adopted a “moderate version” of Islam and claim that the “radicalized” Islam of the Middle East is not true Islam. However, there is much to be said about this position as the “moderate” believers do little (if anything) to defy their own Muslim brotherhood whose beliefs and behaviours are such a cause for concern, and much else is also denied in the face of objective reality. The claim that these authors are spreading lies and have an agenda based on hatred and unrealistic fear is unfounded. Objective reality demonstrates very clearly that reasonable fear of Islam is not unrealistic and that the facts are proven truthful, substantiated both by world events and Muslims themselves. One must really question the agenda of those “moderate” Muslims who deny that it is the case and insist upon a benign interpretation of Islam instead.
I did something that I wish I had never done. It made such an unbearable impact on me and has become the substance of nightmares, those all too real for comfort. Just one unwitting mouse click then a distraction that took my eyes away for just a moment. When I looked up I saw in full progress a video clip of an Islamic infidel beheading. A beheading - the neck of a real person being sawn right through with all the writhing and the gore. I wont go on, and nor did the video because I stopped it right away. But not fast enough for the grissly scene to have a deep effect on me as the head came off. This was something that had happened for real. It is something that keeps happening - for real. It is something that simply must be made to stop.




The first day of March is the first day of Autumn in the Southern Hemisphere. We have had no cause to complain about our summer this year - it has been warm, sunny and for the most part, fine. When I have been missing from my computer, I have mostly been out in the garden, encouraging things to grow. So now I have lots of flowers with which to decorate my Journal.

With the recent success of the Hamas in Palestine, all Jews and Christians living in the region must be very worried indeed - as should we all. Christians once made up about 10% of the population of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, but now their share of the population is believed to have fallen to less than 2%. Many are leaving to escape the increasing Islamicization of society and the constant violence. Folks are very scared that Palestine is destined to become a second Iran.





